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Entries in Paris Sport (7)

Monday
Jun202022

Paris Sport: Setting the Record Straight 

Paris Sport was a brand name and the name of a business owned by Vic Fraysse, and his son Mike Fraysse. The business was located in Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, seven miles outside New York City, just across the George Washington Bridge.

They owned a bike store (Park Cycle.) with a framebuilding shop at the rear. On weekends the store attracted a lot of customers from New York City, who made the short bike ride via the separate bike path across the GW Bridge.

The Fraysse family had French origins and both Mike and Vic spoke fluent French. This enabled them to import bicycles and frames from France in the 1970s during the US bike boom. The bikes were labeled with the brand name, Paris Sport.

They also had resident frame builders build high end custom frames in their shop. This was how I came to move from England in January 1979 when the Fraysse’s offered me a job.

It was much easier to move to the US in 1979 than it is today. All one needed was a job offer, and a sponsor. The Fraysse’s offered this and paid my air fare over. I arrived literally “With the clothes on my back.” My luggage consisted of the tools from my framebuilding business in England.

Mike Fraysse bought me work clothes and work boots, and I lived in the basement of Vic Fraysee’s home. Frame building materials were supplied and I was paid a flat rate per frame built.

I was satisfied with this arrangement, it got me my start in the US, and for a lot less expense and hassle than if I had I tried to set up a framebuilding business on my own.

By this time there were not too many bikes being imported from France. Because of cost the cheaper bikes sold in the bike store were imported from Taiwan. These were all labeled with the same “Paris Sport” decals, along with the high-end custom frames I was building.

Some customers felt that this cheapened the Brand, and gradually as my reputation grew, customers wanted my name on the frames I built. Vic Fraysse was strongly against this, and I had to agree with him. Paris Sport was his brand that he had worked hard for years to establish. I was simply an employee hired to build Paris Sport frames.

Mike Fraysse on the other hand was a bit more flexible. It was Mike who painted the frames, and sometimes agreed to allow my “Four M’s Logo,” to be placed on the seat tube. 

The frames were often painted in the evening after I had left for the day, so I didn’t see how the were labeled. My decals that I had brought over from England were stored in the shop along with all my tools. These were made available to Mike, and I didn’t mind either way. If a frame had my logo or name on it. It was publicity for me.

I worked at the Paris Sport shop from January 1979 until October 1980. By the mid-1980s, a few frames left the shop fully decaled as a ‘dave moulton’ but without the “worcester, england.” under the logo.

I think a lot depended on, whether the customer was a friend of Mike Fraysse, how much the customer paid for the frame, or in some cases the customer would not agree to take delivery unless it had my name on it.

After working for the Fraysse’s for almost two years, I felt I had fulfilled my obligations to them, and I left in October 1980 to take another job with Masi In California.

We parted on good terms, and I am forever grateful for the start they gave me. Had I not had this opportunity, I may never have come to the United States.

The frames I built at Paris Sport were the same as the ones I built in England. Built to my own design and geometry, with one big difference. The frames built in the UK had a serial number stamped under the bottom bracket, that coincides with a number in my UK Frame-numbers record book.

Paris Sport frames I built had no serial number. Again, this was not my call. In fact, this is one of the clues that it is a Paris Sport frame I built. Like the one pictured here.

The recent owner of the bike was given missinformation by its original owner. I can recognize my own work, so I am not disputing that I built it.

It apparently was labeled fully as a “dave moulton” but as it has been repainted one cannot prove that, but as I have laid out here, “It is entirely possible.” However, it is a pity the original owner did not take a picture before repainting.

Where the story gets strange, is that the original owner says he bought, and paid me directly for the frame in my own shop in New Jersey, and he has never heard of Paris Sport.

I did consult with customers, measure them and build a custom frame, but I did not handle the finances.

I am alive and well, and my memory is still intact. If you do a search on the blog, for “Paris Sport” it will bring up more history. It does not need to be re-written yet.

It is annoying to spend hundreds of hours writing here, only to have miss-informed people question what I tell them.

 

Monday
Jul302018

Paris Sport Mystery

I never know on any given day what will show up in my email inbox, like this one from Gaelan Mundorff, who works for Eden Bicycles in Castro Valley, California. He said:

“I came across this bike today, it’s beautiful. Complete Campagnolo Record and apparently never ridden. It has no serial number stamped, I’d really love to know more about it. 

I have a friend here in town who repurposes bicycles for those in need and has a ton of old frames lying around and this was one in his rafters. He says a woman donated it to him after her husband passed away and that he had this frame custom made for him and never rode it.”

 

Three pictures were attached. The first I looked at was the one above showing the underside of the bottom bracket shell. No serial number, but those derailleur cable guides looked familiar, it could be my work.

Another thing that caught my eye was the “Hidden” vent holes in the Chainstay Bridge. There have to be vent holes anytime a tube is totally enclosed. I explained that in this article. The vent holes in this case were drilled though the left and right chainstays, before the bridge tube was brazed in place.

So the tube is vented through the inside of the chainstays, which are themselves open to the inside of the bottom bracket. This is something I often did, especially on custom frames. It was a good identification clue. I was thinking this was a Paris Sport frame. 

The absence of a serial number was another clue. I worked for Paris Sport from January 1979 to October 1980. None of the frames I built had serial numbers. Why, I am not sure, except to say that there is no point in stamping a serial number on anything unless someone is recording those numbers in a book or file somewhere. No one seemed interested in doing that. 

The next picture (Left.) confirmed it was a Paris Sport, it had the head tube logo with Ets. Fraysee. (The Fraysee Establishment, in French.)

Paris Sport was owned by Vic Fraysee and his son Mike. The last picture (Top of page.) was a mystery to me. It showed a ‘dave moulton’ decal on the down tube. I had never seen that on a Paris Sport.

On occasions, a customer would ask to have my name on the frame as the builder rather than Paris Sport. The Fraysee’s were always adamant and said no.  

I fully understood and respected this. Paris Sport was an established brand name, and I was employed to build those frames. Why would the owners of Paris Sport put the name of their employee on a frame rather than their own brand name?

Mike Fraysee had on occasions compromised and put my four “m,s” logo on the seat tube, (As this frame has.) but it always had the Paris Sport name on the down tube. And yet here was a Paris Sport frame with my name on it. Mike Fraysee painted the frames and often did so at night after I had left for the day, so I probably never saw this frame before it was shipped to the customer.

In this case the customer must have had stronger powers of persuasion than Mike Fraysee, or paid extra, or possibly refused to take delivery unless it was so labeled. Whatever the reason it is a mystery to me.  

Who does all that, and then never completes the build, or rides it?That’s an even bigger mystery.

 

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Monday
Jan302017

Two from the Seventies

Just this last week I was contacted by two owners of bikes I built in the 1970s. Leyland Vail contacted me and sent pictures of his 1979 Paris Sport. Repainted and the original decals gone, but I definitely recognize my own work. I don’t mind the road grit on the bike, it is proof that it is still being ridden.

Leyland was 18 years old when I built this one for him using the French Super Vitus 971 tubing, and French Prignat lugs. Leyland also speculates that he is probably the youngest original owner of one of my oldest US built frames. He could well be.

The other contact was made by Ian Jackman from Newcastle upon Tyne, in England. He had recently bought a custom bike from the original owner. Built in 1977, Ian asked me what I could tell him about the frame, but my UK frame number record book lists only a customer name and a frame number. It doesn’t even have the frame size. (21.5 inches.)

The reason? Back in 1977 I was simply building frames and writing the frame numbers in a book just the keep track of how many frames I was building. Furthest from my mind was the thought that I would be corresponding with owners 40 years later. Even further from my mind were visions of the Internet and email.

 

Footnote: Here is a link to my new YouTube video.  1/29/17

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Wednesday
Mar162011

1975 Tandem

Colin Williamson who lives in the West Midlands area of the UK, sent me pictures of a tandem frame I built in 1975.

He bought the tandem from the original owner about 15 years ago and used it for light touring with his wife. Then three years ago he stripped the frame and had it repainted. He then rebuilt it as a racing tandem.

Together with his stoker Dave, (He didn’t give a second name.) Colin won a couple of tandem time trials last season.

I still have my frame number register book for frames built in England; this one happens to be the first tandem frame I built. Nice to know that 36 years later it is still being put to good use.

The frame size is 23 inches (58 cm.) front, and 21 inch (53 cm.) rear. From the picture above, it appears that the frame fits Colin and Dave as if it were built for them. There is no wasted space between the two riders, and Dave’s knees barely clear the rear handlebars.

The two riders are members of the Solihull Cycling Club, and compete in the “Veterans” class, with a combined age of 115 years. The pair have recorded a 21 minute 10 mile event, and a 53 minute 25 mile time trial.

I did a quick count, and it appears that I built 25 tandem frames in the UK from 1975 to 1978; I also built maybe 2 or 3 while I was at Paris Sport from 1979 to 1980.

Another tandem I built in 1978, (Picture above.) was  ridden by Paul Swinnerton, (Front.) and Trevor Gadd (Stoker.) in the World Championships that year. The event was the tandem sprint event.

To witness these two powerful young athletes muscle this machine around a banked track at speeds approaching 55mph, was both inspiring, but at the same time, a little frightening for me knowing that I had built it.

 

                         

Tuesday
Mar082011

Rack eyelets on a race bike?

I was recently sent pictures of a Paris Sport bike that I built in 1979. The new owner Andy Katz was given the bike by his uncle who was the original owner.

Andy asked me, “What are these eyelets for? I can’t imagine rack eyelets on a race oriented bike like this.”

Indeed, hard to imagine today, but not back in the late 1970s when this bike was built, and I can assure Andy that these eyelets would not have been added by me, had they not been requested by the customer.

When the cycling boom hit the USA in the 1970s, it was immensely popular to load up a bike with front and rear pannier bags and go “Trekking” across the country. I am pretty sure this is where the Trek Bicycle Company got its name, as it was founded during this period.

Also at this time, Jim Blackburn founded a company that bears his name today. He made aluminum racks and pannier bags for bikes. It was not unusual to have brazed-on fittings on a bike frame to accommodate these racks.

This was an American thing, alien to me coming from Europe where if you built frames as I did, they were either racing frames, built for that purpose, or a touring bike with rack fittings.

The eyelets on the old style "Long" Campagnolo rear drop-outs, (Right.) were actually fender/mudguard eyelets that were often left on a race bike so mudguards could be fitted for winter training.

When I first came to America I rode in a few races, it was quite common to see guys riding a criterium race with a Blackburn rack still attached.

They couldn’t be bothered to take the rack off for the race, because at that time when training, even on relatively short rides, it seemed necessary to take your entire tool kit with you, even spare parts, and a change of clothing.

It wasn’t until the 1980s that American cyclists finally realized that you didn’t need to carry all this stuff with you on a single day ride, and the trend became as it is today, to have maybe a small bag under your saddle, and the rest goes in your pockets.

My advice to Andy with regards to his Paris Sport with the eyelets. Leave them be, they are a conversation piece, and period correct.

On another point, this Paris Sport frame is unusual in that it has my four “m” logo on the seat tube, Mike Fraysse who painted the frames did not usually do this. I was employed by his company, they were Paris Sport frames, not ‘dave moulton’ frames. However, if the customer whined enough insisted, Mike would compromise and add my logo.

The original owner of this bike moved to Florida, where the bike ended up in storage for many years. Interestingly, Andy Katz, the new owner lives within ten miles of Ridgeville Park, New Jersey where this frame was built in the Paris Sport shop.

It has come home, so to speak.