San Diego has to be the perfect place to ride a bike all the year ‘round, the weather is continually “Nice.” It is also nice to see that the City is making a real effort to make San Diego a “Cycling Friendly” place. Kudo’s to them, however, when a city embarks on an ambitious program like this, it becomes impossible to please everybody, least of all the motorist.
Bike lanes are being installed, some with raised concrete barriers, and plastic posts to separate the cars from the bike lane. The problem is when cars have to turn right across the bike lane, or for that matter a left turn from the opposite direction, to enter a business, or side street.
The cyclist is now in greater danger than if he was on the street without a bike lane. In some cases, there is a row of parked cars outside the concrete curb and plastic posts. Now the situation is even more dangerous as the turning motorist cannot see the cyclist, and the cyclist does not see the car until it is nosing its way across the bike lane.
In a recent article in the San Diego Union Tribune, a city traffic engineer said that the bike lanes were not designed for people who wanted to ride at 20 or 25 mph and made that clear in this statement.
“The design was not meant to make things more convenient for them,” said Abraham Bandegan, the Encinitas traffic engineer who oversaw the project along the coast. “The design was supposed to make life a little bit miserable for them, but now a 6-year-old kid can ride to the beach and feel totally protected.”
I cannot understand how someone without a basic understanding of what bike riding is about, can be placed in charge of designing a major city’s bike lane network? Has Mr. Bandegan never heard of momentum? One cannot ride any distance on a bike at any reasonable speed above a walking pace and keep stopping and starting. It is why there has always been controversy over cyclists rolling through stop signs.
So, the real bike enthusiast, the roadie or commuter riding to work each day is screwed from both sides. 20 or 25 mph is considered too slow the ride in motorized traffic but is too fast to ride in the bike lane. I am not sure if there is a local bylaw that prohibits the cyclist riding in traffic where there is a bike lane, but even if there is not, he will still suffer the wrath of every passing motorist who perceives he should be on the bike lane.
And don’t be so sure that a six-year-old will stop at every intersection, I have seen some that age on electric bikes that will do 15 mph or more. They scare the crap out of me, a child that age has no concept of danger. Don’t tell me that a child won’t get ahead of a parent and blow through an intersection just as a car is turning.
Last November, a prominent local scientist and experienced cyclist was riding his bike along a protected lane on Leucadia Boulevard when he was fatally struck by a vehicle turning right onto a side street.
Please do not let anyone else die. Local cycling enthusiasts speaking out about the design flaws in these bike lanes are not all arrogant assholes, many are simply frustrated that they know how to fix the problem through everyday experiences, but getting the powers that be to listen, therein lies the problem.
My thanks to Steve Farner, friend, long-time reader and commenter on this blog, for sending the two articles that prompted this post, and are linked in the text. Well worth a read to further understand the issue.
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Ebay Prices and my Bike Registry
It has been over ten years since I opened my “Bike Registry” in August 2010. My blog had started five years earlier in 2005 and a result I was getting emails from owners of bikes I had built. I realized in order to preserve these bikes there needed to be information online, so someone finding one would realize the bike had value, and there were people interested in owning one.
The Registry has worked because there is hardly a week goes by, that I don’t get two or three emails from people who have inherited a Fuso, or another bike I built, or they found one in a yard-sale, and they want to know how much it is worth.
I can tell you over the last ten years that my Registry has existed, the price has held steady, on average around $500 or $600. A really nice one in mint condition with top-of-the-line components will occasionally go for $1,000, or even more. But there has to be someone willing to pay that much for a bike that is the size that the buyer needs.
On eBay at the time I am writing this there are five bikes with frames I built, priced between $695 and $2,400, plus $100 to $150 for shipping. The bike that is priced at $2,400 (Pictured above.) has been on eBay for at least three years. It may be worth that much to someone, it is in mint condition, and anyone would be hard pressed to fine a nicer one. Obviously, the owner is holding out for the right buyer.
I always assume that when someone asks me for a value of a bike or frame, they expect to sell in in a reasonable amount of time. Let me tell you a true story.
About a year ago, someone emailed me to tell me they had bought a Fuso at a yard sale for $19 and asked me what it was worth. I told him $500, thinking that this was a nice little return on his investment. Within minutes of sending the email the bike appeared on eBay at a $1,000 “Buy it now” price.
I was a little annoyed, I thought, ‘Why waste my time asking for a valuation.’ Then just to rub it in, the bike sold for $1,000 by the end of that first day, and the seller emailed me to say I had given him bad information.
This is not the end of the story. A little over a week later the person who bought the bike emailed me, excited about his purchase, and wanted to add it to the registry. He sent pictures and asked me how to fix the rusted out top tube guides. Now I felt bad for him, I could not bring myself to tell he had paid way too much for the bike.
I hate to see people get screwed, whether they are buyers or sellers. Had this seller, sold the bike for $500, I would have been happy for his good fortune, and I would not have felt so bad that the buyer had paid $1,000 for what amounts to a piece of rusted out junk.
I do not influence or set prices, and neither does the presence of my Registry. Prices of vintage bikes went down in the crash of 2008, and have yet to go back to what they were prior to that. I remember a year or so before 2008 one of my custom ‘dave moulton’ bikes went for $3,000. I have not seen anything that high since.
Simple supply and demand create the prices. I have a Facebook Group page with about 1,300 members, that is probably the extent of my following. I built 2,400 Fuso frames plus the other brands. There is a good supply out there for anyone who cares to look for one.
If all you can find is a rough one in your size, you can at least ride it until a nicer one comes along, and if you did not overpay for your first bike or frame, you can sell it for what you paid for it. Do not buy vintage frames as an investment. Entered into wisely it can be a rewarding hobby that will bring hours of pleasure and healthy outdoor exercise.
Many bikes that come up for sale have been in storage for years in a garage or storage unit, the owner will ask top dollar for it, but the bike has twenty years of dirt and grime on it. Or they cannot even make an effort to drag the bike outside to take some decent pictures, they post photos of the bike still amongst the clutter it was discovered.
Wash the bike with soap and water as you would a car, do not wipe the dirt off with a dry rag or you will scratch the paint. Chances are if the bike has spent most of its life in storage it will clean up like new and will be worth more.
On the other hand, if the bike has been stored in a barn or shed without climate control, or worse still, outside under a tarpaulin, chances are the aluminum components will be badly corroded, and the frame rusted. The bike still has some value but far less than one in nice condition. However, you may get a hundred dollars or more for it, and someone may get pleasure in restoring it. Rather that than send it to the dump.
If you have one to sell it is your prerogative to ask as much as you feel you can get. You can always come down in price. One suggestion, you start the bidding at $500 or lower and place a reserve on it at $1,000 or whatever you think it is worth and see how high the bidding will go.
If you are a buyer, the prices you see on eBay are what the sellers are asking, not necessarily what the bike is worth, it is worth what you are willing to pay. Join the Dave Moulton Bikes Facebook group it is a good place to find bikes for sale by other DMB enthusiasts who know the true value of bikes I built is not in a dollar amount but the way it feels to ride one.
Here is another article with tips on buying a used bike, and a PDF file you can download and print, on “Packing a bike for shipping.”
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